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I'm unable to stop thinking of offing myself

 
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michaelintaz



Joined: 27 Jun 2008
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Location: Tasmania

PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: I'm unable to stop thinking of offing myself Reply with quote

This is my first visit to this site. I have never poured my heart out online before. Please forgive me if I am unaware of protocols.

I am a man in my mid forties, and I was sexually abused as a child. I have recently made a police complaint about the man that did those things to me for over 4 years. I have been threatened by the perpetrators family and yet the police are not interested. I am expected to show up in court after being threatened but I'm too scared to go for fear of being harmed.

I have 3 children, two from a marriage and one from a disaster. My first two children are everything to me and the thought of suiciding is a real hurdle when it comes to them, but the thirdchild (the one from the disaster) I have only met three times. Her mother is a manipulative, malicious, nasty piece of work. I am resentful of this child and the thought of her instills a coldness in my heart. She is a wonderful child but her mother has used her as a weapon for so long I can no longer be objective. I have chosen to sever all ties with her and her mother. This decision has broken my heart..

I have suffered depression for three years, and I have come to the conclusion that it has not come to a question of if I kill myself but when.

I have lost everything, possessions, money, happiness, and the will to live.

I have been seeing a psychologist for three years and apart from spending a whole bunch of money I feel as though I am no better for the experience. She doesn't even return calls when I'm at my lowest.

I have been on every depression medication there is I think and none of them have done any good. I spend all day every day indoors with a weight around my neck.

The Child Support Agency has set my income at over three times what it actually is and under the capacity to pay law I am now compelled to pay nearly as much as I earn in child support for one child.

I made an objection which took over 7 months to hear and then they came to the same conclusion. Apparently I am a liar.

I have written to MP's, fat lot of good that does!

I have seen a lawyer, I am not able to qualify for legal aid and yet I cant afford the lawyer.

I don't even know why I'm writing this on this site. I guess I'd like to be heard in some capacity before I take the plunge. Perhaps statictics can get heard, depressed men certainly can't

I have heard all of the rhetoric about it being a selfish act. but I think that it is much more selfish for people to expect me to endure endless depression and low self esteem in order for them to not have to deal with my death.

I am broke, I am broken, and I have no motivation or indeed inclination to get well.

Thanks for reading.

I give up!
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ImaDAD



Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm unable to stop thinking of offing myself Reply with quote

michaelintaz wrote:
This is my first visit to this site.

Geez...how do I respond to someone who is suicidal? Please take this as a polite ear bashing instead of advice, sue me if you recover enough to live through it Smile
Don't make it your last visit to this site, second last or even 4th last, come back.
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I have never poured my heart out online before. Please forgive me if I am unaware of protocols.

you don't need forgiveness from us, you need help which is out there.
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I have come to the conclusion that it has not come to a question of if I kill myself but when.
I have lost everything, possessions, money, happiness, and the will to live.

Don't jump to conclusions.
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I have been seeing a psychologist for three years and apart from spending a whole bunch of money I feel as though I am no better for the experience. She doesn't even return calls when I'm at my lowest.

Don't go back there, go to a psychiatrist and seek a Family Relationship counsellor, check into a mental health clinic, just call the ambulance and they will give you a free ride, cheaper than a taxi and much better when you are alive as you get to feel the smooth ride and you know you are making more of an effort which will blow others away to see you are taking positive steps all by yourself. Forget about the possessions you have lost, write it off and deal with it when you have sought the right help, if you are under mental health care they cannot pursue debts too easy so don't worry about those either. The bonus is you get to live longer to sort through your problems in the right order, which you can give yourself time to work out which is most important.
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I have been on every depression medication there is I think and none of them have done any good. I spend all day every day indoors with a weight around my neck.

keep taking it as prescribed, just when you think you don't need it you are kidding yourself, at the point where you think you don't need it you are about half way there.
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The Child Support Agency has set my income at over three times what it actually is and under the capacity to pay law I am now compelled to pay nearly as much as I earn in child support for one child.
Chuck your job in and do some volunteer work for a while so you can help yourself recover. Let Child support jump up and down all they like, after all if you remain seeking help and stay on the prescriptions they can jam themselves while you take your time getting yourself fit to work again.
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I have seen a lawyer, I am not able to qualify for legal aid and yet I cant afford the lawyer.

Try that next year when you are on the path to recovery, much better than bowing out now, as once you are dead not even the dumbest lawyer can help you. If you remain under Mental Health Care for more than 3 months, go to a GP and ask what your options are for support services.
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I don't even know why I'm writing this on this site. I guess I'd like to be heard in some capacity before I take the plunge. Perhaps statictics can get heard, depressed men certainly can't

Very thoughtful of you, you have potential, keep it up in a positive way mate.
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I have heard all of the rhetoric about it being a selfish act. but I think that it is much more selfish for people to expect me to endure endless depression and low self esteem in order for them to not have to deal with my death.

Well before you kill yourself do some other dads a favour and tell them just how bad it can get and try to save a few of them by example and experience. You will feel good about yourself for taking the time to help some guy from killing himself... Smile
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I am broke, I am broken, and I have no motivation or indeed inclination to get well.

Problem is you make us all look like a failure if you take the easy way out, even if you provide a reason, which most can already relate to, call the ambo take a break and stay there until you can start over again. If you get to go to the mental health home you will have time to talk to other people there, try not to worry so much about your problems but listen to their's and then you have helped them offload too. You might find some nice people who are having a rough trot too, you may not be able to help them but try to distract yourself by surrounding yourself with others for a while. It is very hard to stop thinking about depressive things but keep active and try to keep a smile.
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Thanks for reading.
I give up!

If you don't give up and don't call an Ambulance try starting another thread in the forum here and talk about some good times you have had and some good ideas on how to get back to your happy self, make it your distraction for a little while but do seek help via a hospital rather than a psychologist who will try to reason with you.
I noticed you are from Tas, my Uncle lives down there, bloody cold place it is, maybe you could jump on a plane and go to a warmer state for a couple of months to get some fresh air.

Hopefully you will be back to read this and share some more thoughts.

Cheers

ImaDAD Smile
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michaelintaz



Joined: 27 Jun 2008
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Location: Tasmania

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Still here, but I cant imagine why. Reply with quote

Well I'm still in the land of the living. Although I cant say my days are any better.
CSA upheld their decision to put my capacity to pay at 77k although I was earning almost nothing.

It took them 3 months to come to that decision. I appealed the last decision last december they took 7 1/2 months to "investigate" my objection and changed nothing. After a little over 2 months I am being investigated again. I put this down to the fact that I have made a complaint to the ombudsman.

Since I wrote my last message I have got a good job, it pays 55k and I really enjoy it, the problem is if CSA put my capacity to pay at say 82.5k then garnishee my wages for that amount I will be paying 50% more child support than I should be paying and no way to stop it from being taken.

My only choice is to resign this position and accumulate the debt. I was up last night planning ways to kill myself again, The suicide option is like a security blanket. .............. kill myself and all of my problems will be over. It's a real nice thought...not having to be bullied by CSA and the ex.

All attempts to come to an agreement with the ex are met with hostility. I am, once again, out of options.

I am in contact with a guy from the ombudsmans office, I hope he will use my death as a statistical lever to take the pressure off people like me. I have always agreed that child support should be paid, as long as it is fair.

I wish you all luck and I hope you find your answers.

Michael
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ImaDAD



Joined: 16 Dec 2006
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: Still here, but I cant imagine why. Reply with quote

michaelintaz wrote:
Well I'm still in the land of the living.

Hi Michael..i am still reading your post, but you would not know how relieved I am to see POST NUMBER 2 from you...

Great to see you are still with us. You made a massive effort to return. I will read the rest of your post.

Thanks for coming back Very Happy

Cheers

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ImaDAD



Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Still here, but I cant imagine why. Reply with quote

michaelintaz wrote:

I am in contact with a guy from the ombudsmans office, I hope he will use my death as a statistical lever to take the pressure off people like me. I have always agreed that child support should be paid, as long as it is fair.

I wish you all luck and I hope you find your answers.

Michael


Don't kill yourself yet please, give the guys on the forum some time to read your post and offer a response with hopefully some information that will help you get child support to assess you properly.

We have noticed Child Support doing these incorrect assessments too and the guys are talking about it and trying to do something about it. Whilst I do not know the schematics I am aware that CSA have offered to come to a DiDs meeting in Newcastle and discuss it too. Although you are living in a different area, the result just might provide an answer for you too. Personally I can't promise anything but I will see if I can contact one of the other DiDs guys who might be able to post something here RE: CSA

Looking forward to your 3rd post

Take Care

Cheers

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D4E



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Posts: 1842
Location: Western Australia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaelintaz

Please do not throw your life away for nothing, it won't make the difference you think it will.
Mate see your doctor tell him how you are doing and check if you can go on sick leave for awhile.
Even you idea of going on the dole is better.

Let us know what help you need and we will try and source info and ways to fight the system to make a difference.

Money just isn't a good enough reason lets see if we can get something happening and get some support to help you through.
You leaving in this way isn't going to take pressure off anything, fighting for survival will.

Let me know what I can do

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TT



Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 28
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G'day Michael,
I'm glad to see your post number 2 as well. I thought we had lost another brave dad.
The CSA can be beaten, all you need is the right info to do it.
Both ImaDAD and D4E have made some good points that give you food for thought. Especially in ImaDAD's first post in this thread.
Why not take a break for a few months?
Post again Michael, here you are among friends who care.

Tom
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Altricio Tan



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Posts: 238
Location: NSW

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Why not try the eastern way? Reply with quote

Just a suggestion: Please refer to 'Have Your Say >Life is just a Joke - A Comedy of Errors'.
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